patrick chong Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Hey Gentlemen, If given the chance both NSDAP membership vs party pins comes with the same price, which one is more significant & desirable to collect? Thank You. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 NSDAP is the party 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Do you have images of the pins you are looking at? Maybe we can help. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick chong Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Gildwiller1918 said: Do you have images of the pins you are looking at? Maybe we can help. Yes there are photos, (A)NSDAP Party Pin – M1/102 – Frank & Reif Stuttgart vs (B) NSDAP Early Membership Pin Boeger & Co, Berlin S.O.16 I have read things like this, quoting in below "The NSDAP membership pin was a distinct pin given to individuals who were official members of the Nazi party. This pin featured a red enamel background with a white enamel circle, inside of which was a black swastika surrounded by a gold wreath. On the other hand, the NSDAP Party pin refers to the official party emblem pin worn by all members of the Nazi party, including officials, supporters, and activists. It had a similar design to the membership pin, with a red enamel background and a white enamel circle containing a black swastika. The main difference is that the NSDAP Party pin did not have the gold wreath surrounding the swastika like the membership pin did." Just need clarification if they are just the same thing and the same size. Do let me know if A is a good example. Thanks 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 The gold wreath was a special decoration for higher members of the party, Goldenes Parteiabzeichen der NSDAP 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Kel Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Given a choice between the two badges I'd purchase the one marked "BOERGER & CO BERLIN S.O 16. GES. GESCH", it's an earlier, pre-RZM party badge and a much rarer badge to find than the later M1/102 marked badge. It's also a personal preference, I like the earlier badges which often had slightly quirkier, chunky type faces on the lettering as opposed to neat, slim typefaces often used post-RZM. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 My two examples, the one on the right is probably ground dug and the pin is missing 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick chong Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Fritz said: My two examples, the one on the right is probably ground dug and the pin is missing What a Fine example despite one of them is a dug pin! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick chong Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 Check this out, I have never seen this type of back pin before, do you think this is Genuine and Rare? Description: WW2 German NSDAP enamel membership BADGE marked: RZM M1/72 – rare !!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick chong Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Ian_Kel said: Given a choice between the two badges I'd purchase the one marked "BOERGER & CO BERLIN S.O 16. GES. GESCH", it's an earlier, pre-RZM party badge and a much rarer badge to find than the later M1/102 marked badge. It's also a personal preference, I like the earlier badges which often had slightly quirkier, chunky type faces on the lettering as opposed to neat, slim typefaces often used post-RZM. Thanks for the tip, your preference are more towards the vintage style 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Has a button hole fitting, very nice, nicer than the usual pin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick chong Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Fritz said: Has a button hole fitting, very nice, nicer than the usual pin. With that being said, the piece is legit? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 around 100-150 Euros at the most. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick chong Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Fritz said: around 100-150 Euros at the most. Does buttonhole cost different than pin? Damn, this one, it cost 185 euros 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Does sound a bit high, may be slightly rarer and cost more. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick chong Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 Dear Gentlemen, Thank You for advising, Here is my first acquisition for the NSDAP Party Pin m1/164 RZM Marker, (Buttonhole), Check out the photos . I have put it through under the loupe so you guys can have a better look, for example, in the A & O alphabet you may find holes in it, not sure why is there a hole . Enjoy!! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 A couple of little flaws and a chip in the enamel. Normal for a badge over 80 years old, however, looks like someone tried to drill through the A. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick chong Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, Fritz said: A couple of little flaws and a chip in the enamel. Normal for a badge over 80 years old. Honestly, I kinda like the characteristics on it, just couldn't conclude how was there a perfect hole on the A and the O haha. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Badge looks original , very odd about the holes, I have seen Deschler golden party badges with a vent hole so that when the enamel centre was joined to the oak leaf plate the gas between the two items could escape, perhaps this is something to do with that, although I have never seen this on a standard party badge before, plus you would expect to see the holes in the metal part of the badge rather than the enamel. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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