RobRoy Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Hi, I have managed to get hold of 2 iron crosses, second class, medals, and I think they look pretty neat, and I have even been guaranteed that they are 100% real, so I think they should be okay. What do you guys think? The first cross is marked 25, and the other one is unmarked. However, the unmarked one has a small 'weird' marking symbol, which I cannot identify what is. Maybe some of you can see what the small symbol means? (see the image). The medals’ cores are magnetic. Thanks in advance. 25 angled front 25 back 25 Edge 1 25 edge 2 25 front 2 25 Front anglede 2 25 Front 25 Ring Unmarked angled front Unmarked back (2) Unmarked back Unmarked edge Unmarked front 2 Unmarked front Unmarked weird symbol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulchen Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 25 = Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur, Gold- und Silberschmiedeinnungen, Hanau 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulchen Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 and 4 is Steinhauer & Lück, Lüdenscheid 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRoy Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Hi everyone, Paulchen, thanks for some quick and informative messages, nice to know as much as possible about these newly acquired medals. If anyone has any comments about the validity of these medals, I am still all ears, so far it seems that the assumption of them being real still holds. Then onto another funny thing. The 'unmarked medal' as displayed above, which Paulchen has stated must be a number '4' made by Steinhauer & Lück, seems to have the '4' is mirrored! I have tried to take some close-ups of the two medals' marking (25 and '4'), just so show how small and unclear the '4' actually is. Also if I compare the '4' (on the top 2 images below) to an image found online (bottom image) then it seems like the '4' on my medal is mirrored? Has anyone seen anything similar before? To me it seems a bit 'dangerous' that this is mirrored (fake medal?), but I am not sure if this has been seen before. Close up of the two medalsClose up of the two medalsBorrowed image I hope anyone has some thoughts on this topic. Have a nice day! Best regards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 If you rotate it 90 degrees it still looks like a 4 however any I have seen are in a square box rather than a round box, certainly unusual perhaps just badly stamped. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRoy Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Hi Kenny, Wauw, it did not occur to me to just rotate it 90 degrees, it definitely looks more sharp orientated like this. However, since it is not in a square box, should I be worried that something is wrong? Or is bad stamping a common thing? Best regards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Bad stamping did happen, especially when the dies were getting worn out. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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