Boatenki Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Hello, My father has an old gun which he inherited from his family. Unfortunately we know very little about this weapon. Would anyone be able to help identify it? Age, make, model and anything else that would help add some detail to it's story. Many thanks in advance 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 This is a re-worked, probably hunting or poaching gun, made from barrel and system from a French Chassepot M.1866 carbine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatenki Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 Hi Fritz, Thanks for this. That's very interesting. I had no idea it was French. Is the reworked part the barrel, as it looks quite unusual for a rifle? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatenki Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 I've also just found these markings on the bolt action 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72 usmc Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 That thing is a put-together dog. I am not sure what it is composed of. A little bit of everthing. I cannot see the bolt. The work looks like a Khyber pass copy of a firearm made using mixed parts or using whatever materials are available; more often than not scrap metal. The quality of Kyber pass firearms varies widely, ranging from fair to tourist specials not to be fired, to firearms that are shootable, but a danger due to incorrect heat treated parts for the shooter. DO NOT FIRE. The Bolt may be pin fire? Show the front views of the chamber and bolt. Is the barrel rifled or a pipe scrap? Brass work is very common on Kyber pass old time tourist specials. They made lots of copies of old Arab camel rifles. No arsenal markings or stampings suggest hand made copies. How long is the barrel and compair to the different Chassepot or Chassepot Gras types. If in America get a copy of Ian Mccollum's 2019 book :Chassepot to Famas, Inter library loan. Lots of photos of the different variations of military rifles. See the videos by RTI Ethopian specials in this link. https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/gras0002.htm Might I suggest The Khyber Rifles 2006 by Jules Steward While not out yet this book may be of interest: https://www.headstamppublishing.com/kabul-book 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatenki Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 Thanks for that. I thought it looked like it had be altered quite significantly. I just wanted to get an idea of what it could be. I guess the chassepot makes up part of it and is then cobbled together from what ever they had to hand. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Many military rifles have been converted to simple hunting rifles for civil use, usually Mausers and Enfields. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Yes, also known as sporterized rifles. The hard part (and expensive) is getting them back to their original configuration. I have restored several US M1917 and M1903 rifles like the one mentioned above. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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