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Could anyone tell me what type of helmets these are .I think one is German ww1 not sure of the other one.The first helmet is just the shell ,rusty but no holes and plenty of metal let on the helmet.Second one has the liner and strap. Thanks MickTaylor 

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First helmet shell is a German M.1916 or M.1917 helmet, depending on what liner was in side. Would leave this as it is - no alerations! And store away from rust sources. The first examples were produced in Thale/Harz and introduced as a trial in small numbers on the Verdun Front in February 1916.
Look out for a makers mark inside of shell brim. Example: ET64 would stand for the maker, Eisenhüttenwerk Thale and 64 for the shell size. There were various other makers in WW1. Unfortunate that the liner is missing, but this is the case in many examples after 100 odd years. The Pickelhaube chinstrap will fit over the lugs to the inside of the brim, as that was their purpose.
The second helmet is a British M.1944 "turtle" helmet, these were introduced just in time for the Normandy landings and were intended to replace the previous Brody. Looks as though it has been overpainted black, should be a greenish or khaki finish. These were worn until replaced by the modern fibre helmets., known as "Kevlar" or similar, so it was the last of the series of British steel helmets. I'm sure somebody else could tell you a lot more.

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Hi Mick, looks like a MK 4 Turtle helmet to me which replaced the D-Day Mk 3 helmet some time in 1945, the liner should be attached with the

detachable lift and dot release principle. Could you take a photo of the inside of the helmet for me, has it got any maker stamp marks on the inside

of the shell.

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