Buster Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Got this from a mate, as you can see it's a bronze sa badge , it's actually a replacement for a fake I got when away on holiday! Will never buy again when on my tablet by the pool . (LAST PIC INCLUDES FAKE BADGE COMPARISON) The SA Sports Badge was instituted on 28 November 1933 by then SA chief Ernst Röhm. It was originally only issued in bronze through the year 1935. The on 15 February 1935, Hitler decreed that the badge be officially recognized. It was thereafter issued in three grades 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Interesting. The majority of SA Wehrkampfabzeichen were made of iron (magnetic) with a good bronze finish. The badge was worn the other way round, with the blade pointing upwards. The fake example does not look as though it is made of iron. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Did you find the museum Buster? I hope you didn't bump into the "head man" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 No Kenny, just as I thought, i couldn't get the wife off the beach, & was too hot to sit on a bus to get there . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I don't blame you Buster must have been really hot this year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Here is my badge, numbered 745106, marked: Berg & Nolte A.G. /Ludenscheid. It is magnetic as well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Before the war started, brass and bronze (Buntmetall) were no longer used, either iron or aluminium. As from 1940 aluminium was in short supply, as it was needed for aircraft, iron was generally needed for weapon production, so therefore zink was widely used for secondary articles. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I can understand that, weapons seem a higher priority in a conflict than medals and badges. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 This example is by W. Redo, Saarlautern, probably the most often encountered producer of this badge. Iron with a bronze patinated finish, considerable wear with slight traces of corrosion, has no number. Most examples bear the inscription: Eigentum der Obersten SA-Führung. So apparently the badge was not the property of the wearer, just on loan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Interesting about the badges being marked property of the SA, mine reads: Eigentum der S.A. (Sturmabteilung) sportabzeichen hauptstelle. Any reason why mine is marked different than yours? Specification changes? Just curious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Yours may be earlier with the numbering. The HJ Leistungsabzeichen was also usually numbered to each recipient. There are also B-Examples, which are said to be a replacement for a lost badge. These simply had a "B" stamp to the rear. This is maybe a similar prinicpal, I haven't seen any information so far to back this up in the case of the SA badge. Just noticed: Your badge is also marked: "Sportabzeichen Hauptstelle", this is simply a variance in wording, the meaning would be the same - all badges being the property of the SA, Hauptstelle simply means Main Office, which would seem logical anyway. There was no legal difference. Either the wording was in variance by the manufacturer or slightly changed in due course, otherwise nothing would have changed in the ruling in the question of property. In case lost, it could also be a usefull indication to the finder, where the badge was to be returned in any case, it would have been sufficient to hand in to a police station. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddieq Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Hi all I know very little about SA badges (well, only enough to be dangerous! ). what does everyone think about this one? Many thanks E 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Not quite mint, always a good sign. The silver is relatively rare. Looks all right at first glance in the pictures. Any other opinions? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Hi Eddie, as usual very hard to make a judgement from photo's alone. Badge looks OK, but I'm not sure about the finish, especially reverse left. Lot's of wear to sword but very little to the wreath, could just be the photo but does look like it's been touched up or re-guilded then aged. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddieq Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Thanks, both, for your useful input as always. I’m in two minds about the badge which is why I asked- It has as much going for it, as it has against it! lol. Thank you E 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Or overpainted in silverbronze? (aluminium) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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