Helene Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 hello everybody, I have found in my dad’s garage what seems like an MK3 helmet but with a liner marked TTC 11 194? The last number Looks like a 3 so 1943 but when I google Teddy Toy Company it seems like they only produced helmet liners until 1942... any idea ? Thank you very much for your help 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Welcome to the forum Helene, Teddy Toy Co Ltd of Dagenham made them from 1939 - 1943, try rubbing a little talc on the stamp mark to enhance it. I've seen their liners stamped up to 1943. Is there any maker stamp marks on the helmet? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helene Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hi Leon, What a good idea I’ll try that! As for the maker stamp on the helmet, where should I find it? I daren’t pull on the liner too much as it looks a bit cracked . Or maybe I should try unscrewing it... thanks a lot! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hello Helene, typically the helmet stamp would be around the inside brim, and sometimes the chinstrap lugs may have dates as well. I would not take the helmet apart, as you said, it looks a little fragile. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helene Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Thanks Gildwiller, I had a look but can’t find any mark ... very frustrating! I’ll try with some talcum powder tomorrow but I’m nearly sure it’s 1943 But can you tell me if the 11 of the TTC means November? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hi Helene, the TTC II = Mark 2, the liner would be stamped III for a Mark 3 liner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helene Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hi Leon, so that I get it right, you mean the liner is a Mark 2, but is the helmet a mark 3 as I think it is ? Sorry if I’m a bit thick... Thanks for sharing your Science Helene 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 The best way to tell if its a mk3 or mk4 is to look were the rivet is on the side of the helmet shell, below are photo's of both. 1st photo is a mk3. 2nd photo is the mk4. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 The mk3 helmet was made by three companies they were. Briggs Motor Bodies ( BMB ) of Dagenham. Fisher & Ludlow ( F & L ) of Castle Bromwich. Rubery Owen Co Ltd ( RO & CO ) of Leeds. The Belgians produced the mk3 helmet post war but do not have any maker stamp or date marks on their shells. Hope this helps. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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