Graeme Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I haven't posted anything for a wee while now and I always promised David I would post a pic of this Group. RQMS George Myers KOSB & 20th Rifle Brigade Queens South Africa Medal with Clasps 'Cape Colony', 'Paardeberg', 'Johannesburg' & 'South Africa 1901' (KOSB) WWI War Medal (Rifle Brigade) WWI Victory Medal (Rifle Brigade) with MID Oakleaf - Confirmed with MIC and London Gazette entry Meritorious Service Medal (Rifle Brigade) - Confirmed with London Gazette entry The MSM is 1 of only 2 awarded to the Rifle Brigade for Egypt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 very nice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Excellent 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Officially, the South Africa bars 1901 and 1902 belong on the King's medal, but are sometimes seen on the Queen's South Africa Medal, the King's medal being absent. Does anyone have any explanation for this? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Hi Fritz, I would need to look into the exact criteria but from memory you had to do 18 months service to get the Kings medal, so if the soldier served less than 18 months he would only be entitled to the Queens South Africa with the 1901 and 1902 bars added to his other bars if entitled. Some one else will probably be able to give more information as the shop is really busy just now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUKA STEVE Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 The bars appeared on the Queens medal for those servicemen who had completed 18 months service but had left the South African theatre before Jan 1st 1902 or had spent a period of time there after 1902.The Kings S.A. Medal was instituted in 1902 by King Edward VII for those who had served in South Africa after 1 January 1902 but had completed 18 months service in the conflict, not necessarily continuous, prior to the war's end on 1 June 1902. The King's Medal was always awarded in addition to the Queen's Medal, which continued to be awarded until the end of the war. However if you left the theatre before 1st jan 1902 you did not receive the Kings medal but you still got both of the bars even though you were not there continously in 1902. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Great group. I have a msm 14-18 trio mid group to z655 sgt h w Steele 2nd rifle brigade. Cant seem to be able to load pictures. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Nice set, I assume they have been recently (court-) mounted - not the old style of mounting, could you post a photo of the reverse sides? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Here’s the reverse photo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 04/07/2011 at 21:56, Graeme said: I haven't posted anything for a wee while now and I always promised David I would post a pic of this Group. RQMS George Myers KOSB & 20th Rifle Brigade Queens South Africa Medal with Clasps 'Cape Colony', 'Paardeberg', 'Johannesburg' & 'South Africa 1901' (KOSB) WWI War Medal (Rifle Brigade) WWI Victory Medal (Rifle Brigade) with MID Oakleaf - Confirmed with MIC and London Gazette entry Meritorious Service Medal (Rifle Brigade) - Confirmed with London Gazette entry The MSM is 1 of only 2 awarded to the Rifle Brigade for Egypt. Wow my rifle brigade msm also Egypt will dig out the paper work and confirm 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 London Gazette for mention in dispatch’s 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 London Gazette for msm 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Very good, however, the ribbons and the style of mounting look very new. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Yes new ribbons ,I still have a lot of medals with there old ribbons but it’s just I don’t give the ribbons much thought. its the medals them selves I concentrate on plus the research. I suppose it’s just a mater of individual taste. also I don’t think my msm is for Egypt I think it’s another W H Steele 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Ribbons are important and enhance the medal in every way. Otherwise we just have a plain coin like object. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I see we’re your coming from Fritz but for me it’s all about the medal detail . especially on Victorian medals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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