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Here is a 3 place Saxony medal bar with  Saxony Military Order of St. Henry Knight's Cross and EK2 but what is the third medal?

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Fürstentum Reuss, Ehrenkreuz 3. Klasse mit Schwertern.
Dieser Orden wurde am 24.Mai 1869 durch Fürst Heinrich XIV. jüngere Linie gestiftet. Der Orden bestand aus 3 Klassen und konnte an Inländer und Ausländer für besondere treue Dienste und ausgezeichnete Leistungen verliehen werden. 1885 wurden die Statuten geändert. Nunmehr bestand der Orden aus 4 Klassen und einer angeschlossenen Silbernen Verdienstmedaille. Die 1. Klasse konnte außerdem mit der Krone verliehen werden. Die 1. und 2.Klasse hatten weiß emaillierte Kreuzarme und waren aus Gold oder vergoldet. Die 3.Klasse war ohne emaillierte Kreuzarme aus Silber. Im Jahre 1897 wurde die Goldene Verdienstmedaille gestiftet und dem Orden angeschlossen. Seit 1902, mit Übernahme der Regierungsgeschäfte für Heinrich XXIV. (ältere Linie) durch Heinrich XIV.(jüngere Linie), wurde der Orden auch auf das Fürstentum ältere Linie ausgedehnt. 1909 wurde das Ehrenkreuz durch das Offizierskreuz und die 4.Klasse erweitert. Die anderen Klassen konnten jetzt mit Krone verliehen werden. Für Kriegsverdienste wurden die Schwerter für alle Klassen gestiftet. 1915 wurde ein Kriegsband eingeführt. Die Verleihung der einzelnen Klassen erfolgte abhängig vom Rang oder gesellschaftlicher Stellung. Bei Höherstufung war die niedere Klasse rückgabepflichtig. Nicht davon betroffen waren Schwerterdekorationen wenn die höhere Stufe ohne Schwerter verliehen wurde. Das Ehrenkreuz 3.Klasse wurde an Oberleutnant, Leutnant, Sanitätsoffiziere und vergleichbare zivile Ränge verliehen. Gegen Ende des 1. Weltkrieges wurden die Medaillons in Silber vergoldet hergestellt.
 

This order was created on 24. May 1869 by Prince Heinrich IX. of the younger line. The order was in 3 classes and could be awarded to natives and foreigners for special and outstanding services. In 1885 the statutes were changed.
The order then maintained 4 classes and an adjoining sivler medal. The first classe could also be awarded with the crown. The first and second classes had white enamelled cross arms and were of gold or gilded.
The thrid class was without enamelled cross arms and was silver. In 1897 the golden service medal was raised and adjoining the order. As from 1902 with the accession of the Regency for Heinrich XXIX. (older line) by Heinrich XIV. (younger line), the order was extended to the Principality of the older line. In 1909 the Ehrenkreuz was extended by the Offizierskreuz and the 4th class.
The other classes could then be awarded with the crown. For war services the swords for all classes were created. A war ribbon was introduced in 1915. The award of the individual classes depended on the rank or social standing. With the award of the higher class, the lower class was to be returned.
Not included were the decorations with swords. The Ehrenkreuz 3. Klasse was awarded to Oberleutnant, Leutnant, Sanitätsoffiziere and comparable civil ranks. Towards the end of the war, the medallions were made in gilded silver.
Text: Ehrenzeichen.Orden.de

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Fürstlich Reuß'sche Silberne Verdienstmedaille mit Schwertern für Kriegsverdienste (1915-)

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Thanks Fritz, 

This is where my knowledge of Saxony gets hazy. I've not heard of the Principality of Reuss before which seems to border Saxony in a rather fragmented way. I can see that Reuss also includes Thüringen, (or is it the other way around?) which also seems to have it's own medals for WW1. Are these considered part of Saxony from a collecting stand point? So the bar I have shown is a Saxon bar with a Principality of Reuss, Princely Honour Cross, III Class With Swords awarded to a non-Reuss soldier or foreigner from Saxony? Have I understood your explanation correctly? And this is a WW1 era version? 

The Order of St. Henry Knight's Cross shown also looks a bit "crude" is this because it is a late war variant or some other reason?

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Thank you. 

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Thüringen is the sum of all the lands together, excluding (Royal) Saxony. The Hausorden is the normal version, if in silver it would be from 1915 onwards, earlier in gold. Reuss (Reuß) was a small state with territories shared between the older and the younger lineage of Reuss in the region of Thüringen, which still exists as a present day land. The group was probably to a person from Saxony.

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Thanks Fritz

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