Jan Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Hello. I’m about to buy one of those crosses. There is two cross in photos by two different seller. I know they are cheap that’s why there is not many good quality copy but I saw one copy in almost this condition. Made me suspicious because second one look soo clean. And there is no number. better be sure than sorry. What your opinions? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 Apparently This is a copy. Honestly I couldn’t find any difference except the ring. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 First two look OK , I would go for the first one with the nicer ribbon 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kenny Andrew said: First two look OK , I would go for the first one with the nicer ribbon Yes but it seems to me the dots on the top part (with swastika side) looks like a kinda out of the order. I know it is a red alert for wound badge but is it okay for this one? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jan said: Yes but it seems to me the dots on the top part (with swastika side) looks like a kinda out of the order. I know it is a red alert for wound badge but is it okay for this one? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 always hard to tell from a photo but I think it looks ok, the ribbon is certainly original which is a good sign 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kenny Andrew said: always hard to tell from a photo but I think it looks ok, the ribbon is certainly original which is a good sign Thank you ! How can you tell if ribbon is original? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Hi Jan, Firstly by looking at the ribbon you can usually tell it's a copy if it looks brand new. Secondly wartime ribbon was made in two separate threads, one was the warp and the other the weft. If the ribbon has no weft then it is most likely not wartime. You can see in the first picture you posted the weft running along the edge of the ribbon, copies tend not to have this feature. Thirdly the burn test, if the thread melts rather than burns it is a bad sign. Finally the UV light test, if the ribbon glows brightly under UV light that can be a bad sign, although not everything which glows brightly is bad, but it is a good indicator used in conjunction with the other tests. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share Posted August 7, 2021 7 hours ago, Kenny Andrew said: Hi Jan, Firstly by looking at the ribbon you can usually tell it's a copy if it looks brand new. Secondly wartime ribbon was made in two separate threads, one was the warp and the other the weft. If the ribbon has no weft then it is most likely not wartime. You can see in the first picture you posted the weft running along the edge of the ribbon, copies tend not to have this feature. Thirdly the burn test, if the thread melts rather than burns it is a bad sign. Finally the UV light test, if the ribbon glows brightly under UV light that can be a bad sign, although not everything which glows brightly is bad, but it is a good indicator used in conjunction with the other tests. Thank you! This will help a lot ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Kenny Andrew said: Hi Jan, Firstly by looking at the ribbon you can usually tell it's a copy if it looks brand new. Secondly wartime ribbon was made in two separate threads, one was the warp and the other the weft. If the ribbon has no weft then it is most likely not wartime. You can see in the first picture you posted the weft running along the edge of the ribbon, copies tend not to have this feature. Thirdly the burn test, if the thread melts rather than burns it is a bad sign. Finally the UV light test, if the ribbon glows brightly under UV light that can be a bad sign, although not everything which glows brightly is bad, but it is a good indicator used in conjunction with the other tests. By the way I decided to buy a different one. Not good as these and 2 dollars more but at least have a number on the ring. Other two didn’t have any 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Always better to have a maker marked version when possible. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Kenny Andrew said: Always better to have a maker marked version when possible. Yes. Thanks to you guys I am learning a lot in time 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGE19K Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I HAVE A GERMAN 5 MEDAL BAR. ONLY THE MEMEL RIBBON GLOWS. THE OTHERS PASS THE TEST. THE THREAD HOLDING THE MEDAL IN PLACE SO IT DOESNT DANGLE ALSO PASSES. WTF??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Without seeing photos we cannot say. The Memel Medal is quite rare, but no doubt, original ribbons and miniatures can still be found. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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