Hitler youth knife real.. Help

[Lee]

Can anyone please tell me if this is real? I know its a later version of it.. But is it real? Kind regards 

[Fritz]

It is real. It has the later fittings in nickel-plated zink. There is also the maker mark M7/6 and RZM. The scabbard has most of it's original paintwork and the leather hanger is complete. The blade also has it's original leather buffer.

[Lee]

What kinda year do you think this came out? The rest seem to have writing on the blade and makers stamp on the other side of the blade... So it's a blade from maybe 1938 onwards? Also is this a more less desirable one? Kind regards Lee 

[Lee]

Also how much do you think one in this condition is worth? Many thanks 

[Fritz]

Condition is not too bad. The zink fittings tend to lose their nickel-plating through time, and the zink tends to turn grey, however oxidation should be avoided by correct storage. The blades originally had an engraving, which is mostly gone, as the Hitler Youth did tend to use their knives when they took part in adventures, camp, Ferienlager, so the engraving is nearly always completely worn off, or barely visible. The engraving was originally:
        "Blut und Ehre!"      which was the motto of the Hitlerjugend, found also on their belt buckles.
Due to the zink fittings, this example could be after 1939 or 1940. Previously the fittings were nickel-plated iron, but iron was needed for the war effort, so many smaller things were then produced in zink, which was readily available and useable enough for secondary items, which were not essential for the war effort. The prices of HJ knives has risen in the past few years. A few years back they were 100-180 Euros, today an example like yours might cost around 350.
You can check the prices in internet offers, the end price depends of course on the condition of the item.

I have just checked to see who the maker was, RZM M 7/6  was H. & F. Lauterjung, Solingen. The RZM stands for Reichszeugmeisterei, a standard mark on most NSDAP items.

Here is a list of some of the manufacturers, not complete!

M 7/1Gebrüder Christians, Solingen/Christianswerk
M 7/3Kuno Ritter, Solingen-Grafrath (Grefrath?)
M7/4M 7/5Carl Julius Krebs, Solingen
M 7/6H. u. F. Lauterjung, Solingen
M 7/7Hermann Konejung A. G., Solingen
M 7/8Eduard Gembruch, Solingen-GrafrathM
M7/9Solinger Metallwarenfabr. Stoecker & Co. (SMF),Solingen
M 7/10J. A. Henckels, Solingen
M 7/11E. Knecht & Co. Solingen
M 7/12Carl Robert Kaldenbach, Solingen
M 7/12Waffenfabrik Max Weyersberg (WMW), Solingen
M 7/13Artur Schüttelhofer & Co., Solingen-Wald
M 7/14R D. Lüneschloß, Solingen
M 7/15Carl u. Robert Linder, Solingen
M 7/16Justus Brenger & Co., Solingen-Wald
M7/17A. Werth, Solingen
M 7/18Richard Abr. Herder, Solingen
M 7/19Edward Wüsthoff (Dreizackwerk), Solingen
M 7/20Ernst Mandewirth, Solingen
M 7/21Hermann Schneider, Solingen
M 7/22Wilhelm Weitersbach, Solingen
M 7/23Carl Halbach, Solingen
M 7/24Reinhard Weyersberg, Solingen
M 7/25Wilhelm Wagner, Solingen-Merscheid
M 7/25Jostes & Co., Solingen
M 7/26Jacobs & Co., Solingen-Grafrath
M 7/26Carl A. Meis GmbH., Solingen
M 7/27Pumawerk Lauterjung & Sohn, Solingen
M //28Gloriawerk Gustav Felix, Solingen

Here is an earlier example, iron fittings, used condition, tip of blade has broken off, engraving hardly visible, the leather buffer on root of blade is a replacement, average to good condition- not perfect, but I'm pleased with it.
This example was made before the RZM marks became standard, has a straightforward maker logo on the back of blade, Robert Klaas, Solingen

[Lee]

Thank you my friend