Ian Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Is this WWI EK2 as good a fake as I think it is. Being a novice when it comes to authentication and identifying established makers, I would be grateful for an authoritative opinion. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Difficult to say from a photo. Haven't seen a case quite like this design before, does not seem to have signs of age, the white velvet looks a bit coarse. However, I think the cross could have been possibly manufactured in the late 1930s or at least before 1945, typical of the finish on this example. Does the ring have any marking at all? Could well be an original ribbon attached, these are also getting harder to find. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 I'm afraid I don't have access to the item as it is being offered for sale on line. Another source has said that while the box is highly questionable, the cross itself appears genuine. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Will the seller accept returns? Get a few more opinions 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I agree with Fritz, the case does not look 100 years old to me and the cross is not a WW1 pattern. It could be a replacement cross made in the 40's as Fritz says but would really need hands on inspection to be sure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achtung Spitfire! Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) I know nothing about Iron Crosses gents so can I have your opinions on this please. Authenticity & manufacturing period if you can? Same goes for this wound badge. Edited October 6, 2020 by Achtung Spitfire! Edit photos 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Hi Paul, Iron cross is original wound badge is a copy 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achtung Spitfire! Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Thanks Kenny 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Spitfire - on the ring is a stamp, as very often, here - KO - about half of the marked originals have this stamp, others have no stamp, there is a large range of manufacturers each with their initials stamped, crosses of certain manfacturers will cost more, Godet, Wilm, Wagner, etc., all quality marks. KO is probably from the Berliner Münze, a direct order from the Crown. The ribbon is also original, which is an important detail when buying a decoration. One source states KO as Klein & Quenzer, Idar-Oberstein, who also later produced 1939 crosses, other souces state KO as (contract manufacture to the) Königliche Ordenskommission, which was the establishment itself. No wound badges had this type of pin, there are otherwise many variations, usually a thinner pin. Example of an award document issued by the Königliche (General-) Ordens-Kommission 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achtung Spitfire! Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 You guys know the score hence the question so much appreciated gents 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Thanks gents. Much appreciated. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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