Ian Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 In your opinion, what maker does this mark signify. It is on a 1939 EK2 Thank you. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 The mark is clearly a '4' - which is the manufacturer's code for Steinhauer & Lück, Lüdenscheid. Known marks are from 1 - 130, and further numbering as from L/11, as quoted in other posts on this topic. This information is available in most qualified reference works on the subject. It is advisable to get some good books on the subject. examples: 1 = Descher & Sohn, München 2 = C.E. Juncker, Berlin SW68 3 = Wilhelm Deumer, Lüdenscheid etc. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 Thank you. As you may appreciate, while I collect military and civil Orders and decorations, I am a novice when it comes to EKs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 I cannot determine the mark on my Imperial EK2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Not a very clear strike, which does occur occasionally. I would say it is meant to be a "W", which would be Johann Wagner & Sohn, Hofjuwelier in Berlin, stated by some sources as Wilm. The "imperial" iron cross was not imperial, but "Royal". The German Empire did not have decorations as such, just the individual states, the Iron Cross being a Prussian decoration dating from 1813, which however could be awarded to recipients from other states. The WW2 iron cross you posted, should be under the section "Third Reich Medals and Badges". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 Jawohl. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Following information from an internet page, there is quite a variety of makers: CD – Carl Dillenius, auch mit Silberstempel- / – Fr, FR, Fr im Rahmen – Gebrüder Friedländer, Berlin/– G – J. Godet & Sohn, Berlin oder Glaser & Sohn, Dresden/ – K.M.S.T., K.M.St., KMST, K.M., KM, auch mit Silberstempel – Königliche Münze Stuttgart/ – KO – Klein & Quenzer, Oberstein auch mit Silberstempel/– S-W, S&W – Sy & Wagner, Berlin auch mit Silberstempel/– we, We – J.H. Werner/– WS, W.S., W&S, WuS, JW, J.W., J.W.S. – alle Joh.Wagner & Sohn, Berlin/– D – Wilhelm Deumer, Lüdenscheid (möglich auch Deschler, München) /– K, K im Rahmen- W. Kluge & Co./ – N – C.E. Neuhaus & Söhne, Berlin/– R – E. Rosenthal & Sohn/ – S – Heinrich Schneider, Leipzig, auch Schaper oder Scharfenberg möglich/– WILM – H.J. Wilm, Berlin auch mit Silberstempel/– Z – H. Zehn, Berlin/– E:W, E.W – Emil Wiechmann/– LW – Luis Werner/– R.Sch. – Richard Schulze, Friedrichshagen/– LV (mit und ohne Zahl)-Lieferungsverband für Eiserne Kreuze/– H – F. Hoffstätter, Bonn/– M – B.H. Mayer, Pforzheim/– MM – Meyle & Mayer, Pforzheim /Hersteller im 3.Reich kennzeichneten mit der LDO-Nummer z.B. L/10,…,L/52 u.ä. Further possibilities: A –(wird auch dem Hersteller F.A. Assmann zugeordnet aber nicht belegt) keine 1.Klasse/ – B – (möglicherweise Hersteller Bury & Leonhard, Hanau)/– HB –keine 1.Klasse/– H.B.G.- keine 2.Klasse, möglich dass HB und H.B.G. ein Hersteller ist/– HTB – keine 2.Klasse (langer Querstrich des T)/– K.A.G. – 1.und 2.Klasse/– KP –keine 1.Klasse/– +(M)+auch mit Silberstempel,keine 1.Klasse/– MEH –auch mit Silberstempel,keine 1.Klasse/– V –keine 1. Klasse/– Wappen mit 3 Kreisen –Silberstempel, keine 2.Klasse/– Y –Silver stamp 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 Thank you. Much appreciated. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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