Gildwiller1918 Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 This is an example of the Speer collar tabs (source: internet) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 In one photo two of the NSKK persons are wearing an army style breast eagle on the "wrong" side (left), breast eagles were otherwise always worn on right side. Any explanation for this? Most of the NSKK rank patches look identical to the SS version, the ranks are also identical, preceeded by NSKK- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Yes Fritz, I noticed that as well. I have been researching it. So far I can find nothing on why they are wearing the eagle on the wrong side of the tunic. Typically if the NSKK men were on detached service to the army, they wore Army style tunics with insignia, so the Eagles should on the correct side. From what I have read, there was a myriad of changes/rules from 1942 onwards describing uniform wear. I just don't have a good answer yet, that is partially why I am posting these type of pictures, to show how the uniforms differed immensely. Another thing I am researching is the NSKK sleeve eagle, it went from the wearer's right arm to the left arm, sometime in 1938/39, but I still cannot find an exact date or order for this. There seems to be a missing portion of paperwork on this, but not surprising as a lot of things were lost or destroyed during the war. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 The main difference on the SS and NSKK collar tabs was size. The NSKK collar tabs are 40mm high and 58mm long, while SS ones (typically) are 40mm high and 55mm. But yes as far as the ranks go, very similar to SS style. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Here is some new fake material for the collar tabs that is on the market now. The 5mm wide silver/black tresse is the same worn by SS units as well. I have it up against a newly made reproduction collar tab to show how it looks. In the last picture you can see a small white sliver of the underlying material. Beware of fakes, NSKK collar tabs, especially with this tresse are very rare, and not easy to find. A lot of vendors sell SS collar tabs that could easily be NSKK ones as well, however SS ones are usually 3-5 times more expensive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 When NSKK personnel wore the necktie with the uniform, they typically wore a pin just below the knot. Similar in wear to the armbands, party members wore the party pin on the tie, in conjunction with the party sleeve armband. NSKK members who were not party members, wore the NSKK necktie pin, along with the NSKK armband. The example below is the silvered version which was worn by NSKK personnel, there was a gold gilt colored one for NSKK marine units. This example is marked with a RZM logo, along with M 1/76 for Motorstandarte 78, 1st company, which was from Ansback, part of Gruppe Niederrhein. Note, I have noticed in many pictures that as the war went on, the use of these pins started to diminish. They are most noticeable on pre-war uniforms or members on staff or school duty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 Here is the tunic as it would have looked with all the items present. The rank is now that of a Truppfuhrer, and the shirt and tie are modern, but they are as close to the originals as I can get. The shirt requirement was that it was an olive drab cotton or wool shirt, and the necktie had to be a brown that was similar in color to the collar. It is surprisingly hard to find shirts and ties in these materials and colors. On the necktie is the party pin, which mirrored the armband. The belt is the political type, but black, with two cross strap keepers. Also worn is the SA Sports badge and a ribbon bar for the War Service and West Wall medal. NSKK men, were involved in the West Wall construction and the KVK was often awarded for their service during the war, however NSKK could also be eligible for combat related awards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 Another new collar tab, 11/M52 which was for the 11th Motorsturm of Motorstandarte Neuweid which was part of Motorgruppe Westmark. Neuwied is in the Rhineland close to Koblenz. This tab has the RZM paper tag on the reverse, which is not uncommon for uniform removed tabs such as this. The few examples I that have seen, had similar tags. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 Nice photo of NSKK men in various uniforms, and headgear. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Motorsturm (singular) - "Neuwied" (Nordrhein-Westfalen) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 New set of collar tabs, 32nd Motorsturm of Motorstandarte 153, located in Berlin, under the Motorgruppe Berlin. Remnants of the RZM label on the reverse side, visible threads of where it was removed from a tunic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Hauptscharführer, there are remains of previous pins on the rear. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 I just purchased a small collection of collar tabs, I will post images soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 29/12/2023 at 05:49, Fritz said: Hauptscharführer, there are remains of previous pins on the rear. Fritz, I did manage to find an extra rank pip in my bin of odds and ends, it's not as worn but it matches. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 You should put your "bin" items with the rest of the collection, displayable as they are. This would be an Untersturmführer? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 Hello Fritz, 3 pips would be a Sturmführer. My bin items are odds and ends such as helmet parts, buckles, buttons, pins, etc. Some are displayable; however, I do not have the space to display them properly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddieq Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Here is a marked NSKK cross strap that I have. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddieq Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Here is a marked NSKK cross strap that I have. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Nice to see complete with D-Ring attachments, these are often missing, and rather hard to complete 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 Here is another new collar tab I got, 14th Motorsturm of Motorstandarte 92, located in Innsbruck, under the Motorgruppe Brig. Tirol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 16th Motorsturm of Motorstandarte 75, located in Düsseldorf, under the Motorgruppe Niederrhein 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 34th Motorsturm of Motorstandarte 155, located in Chemnitz, under the Motorgruppe Sachsen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 6th Motorsturm of Motorstandarte 47, located in Kassel, under the Motorgruppe Hessen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 Staff Personnel Collar Tab of Motorstandarte 151, located in Mannheim, under the Motorgruppe Westmark 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 Lehrstürme (Training companies), of Motorstaffel II, Motorstandarte 16, located in Schleswig, under Motorgruppe Nordmark. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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