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I am posting some pictures of my WW1 German Helmets, would love to see others post theirs as well.

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Here is a nice M16 German helmet with the stamp "B.F. 64" B.F. = F.C. Bellinger, Fulda  which made helmet shell sizes 62 and 64. 

 

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Here is another nice M16 German helmet with the stamp "B.F. 62" B.F. = F.C. Bellinger, Fulda  which made helmet shell sizes 62 and 64.

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Here is a refurbished M16 Helmet marked "Q. 66" Q = F.W. Quist, Esslingen/Neckar, shell size: 66

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Another refurbished M16, marked "TJ. 66" TJ = C. Thiel & Soehne, Luebeck, which made sizes 66,68

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Quist originated in 1866, founded by Jacob Schweizer as Lackier- & Metallwaarenfabrik, one of the main shareholders was later Friedrich Wilhelm Quist.  Mainly specialised in silver-plated tableware, the firm started producing steel helmets in 1916, and after WW1, also aluminium products.  F.W. Quist finally went bankrupt in 1981, a takeover bid by WMF failed. The remains of the firm, with all it's production assets and patents was bought up by BMF and and some original Quist products continued to be manufactured.

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Former Quist factory in Esslingen/N.

 

Bellinger, Fulda. The firm was established in 1867 as Emaillierwerk AG, as Franz Carl Bellinger took over his mother's firm, which had existed since 1836.  The firm originally produced household articles of brass, zinc and sheet metal. Enamel techniques brought prosperity and the firm traded under the name Fuldaer Stanz- und Emailierwerke F.C. Bellinger, and expanded fast.  In 1914 the firm had over 1000 workers and production of steel helmets commenced in 1916, and again during the Second World War. Fulda was badly devastated by Allied bombing. After the war, conversion of steel helmets into pots and pans began, with over 500 workers. The emerging production of plastic articles in later postwar years put the firm into difficulties. In 1964 ownership changed, but the difficulties continued and the firm closed in 1969.

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An aerial view of the factory of F.C. Bellinger in Fulda

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Eisenhüttenwerk Thale photo from the 1980s as this was still very much an important industrial centre in the DDR.
The works were state owned and state run, as of most industry and commerce in the former DDR. Iron- and enamelware
were still very much produced, more than in the West. This was also the sole production centre for the DDR steel helmet.

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The steelworks, DDR photo

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Production stages of the 1916 helmet by Professor Schwerd

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Project M.45 B2, now a rarity, which Hitler did not accept.

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A test object and development from the 1935 helmet through to the 1956 NVA helmet

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The former central administration of the works in Parkstraße 1, Thale

https://hüttenmuseum-thale.de/?page_id=15

Hüttenmuseum Thale
Walther- Rathenau - Str. 1
06502 Thale
Telefon: 03947-778572
E-Mail: huettenmuseum-thale@t-online.de
Kontaktformular
Standort & Routenplaner
Hüttenmuseum Thale
GPS 51°44´40“ N; 011°01´41“ O

In Thale is the Eisenhüttenmuseum, whose internet home page can be found under above link. The museum is said to have documentation and exhibits on the history of steel helmet production in Thale.

 

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Very interesting, did not know about the helmet being developed at the end of the war, eventually becoming a DDR type. 

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B.F.
 F.C. Bellinger, Fulda 
Bär-Symbol bzw. „B“
auf Helmglockendach
 Berndorf, Österreich 
E.T.
 Eisenhüttenwerk Thale A.G., Thale a/Harz 
G.
Gebrüder Gnüchtel A.G., Lauter i/Sa  
G.B.N.
 Gebrüder Bing A.G., Nürnberg
„Glockensymbol“ L.
 R. Lindenberg A.G., Remscheid-Hasten
K J. & H. Kerkmann in Ahlen/westfalen
K & M Körting & Mathissen, Leutsch bei Leipzig
kleines Dreieck + K
Körting & Mathissen, Stuttgart 
Ni. bzw. NJ
Vereinigte Deutsche Nickelwerke, Schwerte i/Westf.
Si.
Eisenhütte Silesia, Paruschowitz Oberschlesien 
verschlungenes Symbol
S und H
Siemens & Halske A.G., Siemenstadt bei Berlin 
T.J.
C. Thiel & Söhne, Lübeck
Q Quist, Esslingen
W.
Herm. Weissenburger & Co., Stuttgart-Cannstatt
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I found another image of the stages the helmet went through during manufacture, similar to the post above. 

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WW1 Sentry/ Machine gunner Armour. With M16 helmet. Marking TJ 66. And I assume replica lining. 

My father turned up with this when I was about 8, 54 now, my brother painted it red in the 70's to make it more fun. 10 years ago when I realized what it was I proceeded to strip the red paint from it and it turns out my brother actually preserved the original paint. 

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Nice armor, do you have the lower plates as well?

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No.....From what I have researched not many survived due to the fact they were attached by leather straps and easily lost and removed. 

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No problem, just curious is all. My version has canvas straps attached with wax coated twine. The plates can still be found but can be expensive...

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An M.16 helmet with an M.17 liner. This just arrived today and cost about 60 percent of what they often sell for nowadays.
The helmet is absolutely untouched, some dust all over, minimal rust bleeding, the leather inside very dry, one pad torn-off,
and needing restoration. This helmet has apparently been very little used and hardly worn. It has probably lain in a barn or shed
in the countryside for most of it's existence, rare to find such untouched pieces in Germany nowadays.
It is maker marked ET64, the paintwork is as good as perfect, just dusty. I will attempt a proper restoration of the liner in the new year and a slight freshening up of the paintwork (using petroleum) removing the dust and rust. The chinstrap is missing, the fittings for the strap are intact.  The helmet is destined for the Heimatmuseum Wandsbek.

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This was my first steel helmet, purchased in 1964 (ET64). Compare example below, arrived today.

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WW1 German M16 Camouflage HelmetWW1 German M16 Camouflage Helmet

This interesting Q.66 helmet with original camouflage finish turned up online recently. It was sold within hours despite the tremendous price of over 1400 pounds. Leather liner with one pad torn, but provisionally attached. A good original example of the typical camouflage paintwork.  I had an example like this in the early 1970s, lining was missing, otherwise in very good condition, bought very cheaply, sold again very cheaply. These are now very expensive.

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A further camouflage helmet, much smaller size, probably a 62

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An example of a "square-dip" helmet, marked ET60. This must have been a very early production. (internet photo)

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The cavalry on the Eastern Front were among the last troops to be issued with steel helmets. Postwar photo, 1920s

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Nice helmet, the leather is in good order and with drawstring. I wonder if the leather of the chinstrap is original or replaced at some stage?
The marked Si62 is the maker and shell size, fairly small, Si stands for Eisenhütte Silesia, Paruschowitz / Oberschlesien.
The liner is mounted on a steel ring, rather than the earlier wide leather band from 1916, so the helmet was probably made in 1917, see photo example as comparison. The 1918 helmets saw further changes.

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1916 helmet with leather liner band.

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Nice helmet Skyline!

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The name appears to be Hr. Kriegs Freiwilliger Neugebauer

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