redwings12 Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 Hello, Just picked up this WW1 Iron Cross 2nd Class and wanted to double check its authenticity here as its the first Iron Cross I've collected. It does pass the magnet test and there seems to be a faint makers mark on the ring although I cant identify it for certain. Thank you for your help! 5 Quote
Fritz Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 That is an original. Photos are clear, but can't quite decipher the maker's mark. Ask a few more opinions on the marks. You will need a nice old ribbon for that. 5 Quote
Xcvu Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 To me it looks like its marked HB an unknown maker and location most likely Paul Hossauer in Berlin. 2 Quote
adem Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 Hello, I have this iron cross 1939 1st class, round, screwback, so I'm wondering if it's original or fake, the back has only the inscription GES.GESCH., no other marks? I know a bit of history about this cross. It looks very unusual, and have reddish color like copper or bronze idk, I couldn't find a single similar cross on the internet. The proof that this is an original Iron Cross is the story behind it. The soldier who received this iron cross is also the holder of another medical medal that is on picture. This soldier was caught in Yugoslavia (Bosnia and Herzegovina), and imprisoned in Banja Luka in the Black House (something like a court, torture house or prison for domestic traitors and enemies), and was sentenced to be shot or hanged. This iron cross and another medal were found in evidence from year 1949. And I bought these medals from the man who worked on cleaning the Black House in Banja Luka. Iron cross is in good condition, curved, have a screwback, and it is nonmagnetic. In addition, there are no markings except for the GES.GESCH. mark on back, which means "gesetzlich geschützt" or in English "legally protected". Because of that story and this other medal belonging to the same soldier, the conclusion is that the iron cross is original, even though it looks strange. I came to the conclusion that it might be an earlier version or something like that, not sure. I think the Iron cross may have been repaired or something like that because the screw mechanism is a little off-center and it doesn't look like other crosses. So I think it's unlikely that it's fake, and it also have signs of wear, but there's still a possibility that it is fake, who knows. Maybe it's a souvenir. 3 1 Quote
Kenny Andrew Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 Hi Adem, welcome to the forum, sorry to say the cross is a very bad copy, there are allot of these type of badges coming out of Poland at the moment. 3 Quote
Stan3333Stan Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 You might not be the only one that this man who worked on cleaning the Black House in Banja Luka has sold this story to. 3 1 Quote
adem Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 Thanks guys for the information. Do you perhaps know if the second medal is also a copy? 5 Quote
adem Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 There is not much information on the internet, but this is the description from few shop sites: Imperial Germany - Wurttemberg: WW1 (1914-1918) badge of the Association of the Red Cross Veterans (nurses, medics and doctors) who served with the Land Forces during the WW1. Maker marked by W.Mayer & Fr. Wilhelm in Stuttgart. 5 Quote
adem Posted November 24, 2024 Posted November 24, 2024 Hello, does anyone know if this is an original medal? Der Deutschen Mutter 16. December 1938 With Adolf Hitler signature It looks like the original to me, but I want to confirm it. I hope it is not a problem that I am asking (on this forum) whether other medals besides the Iron Cross are original or fake? Thanks guys 4 Quote
Fritz Posted November 24, 2024 Posted November 24, 2024 Firstly, not an iron cross, belongs in the German medals section. Looks like an original. All other medals are faked nowadays. 4 Quote
Eddieq Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 It is a Mothers Cross, its looks ok from the photos shown. The signature does look low down but I think it is ok. 5 Quote
Leese Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 Hi, I bought this Iron Cross off ebay. It passed the magnet test but has no makers mark. It looks as though someone has tried to fix the catch on it. could someone advise if this is authentic please? 4 Quote
phantom Posted December 7, 2024 Posted December 7, 2024 sorry I don't like it , lower frame at 3 o'clock mishapen and odd solder on back, not the quality you would expect for a 1st class iron cross. 4 Quote
Fritz Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 It looks ok, certainly well worn, catch has been repaired, not unusual for a decoration worn all the time. 3 Quote
adem Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 Hello, does anyone know is this badge original and what it its value? It looks like early Austrian n.s.d.a.p. Badge and if it is, than it is very rare? 4 Quote
Fritz Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 I haven't seen an inscription like that before, sounds pure fantasy 3 Quote
Eddieq Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 Sorry, looks fantasy/ fake to me, certainly with that pin fixing 4 Quote
JohnP87 Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Hello, an Iron Cross 2nd Class has recently come into my possession, following a house clearance of an elderly relative, and I was wondering if it's an original WW1 medal or a fake/replica? The ribbon loop has been removed, for some reason, so unable to confirm any makers mark. 3 1 Quote
Fritz Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 original, ring loop missing as stated, silver and iron. 4 Quote
phantom Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 original someone has drilled the frame to add the loop 3 1 Quote
bushyman69 Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 Hi everyone. I picked up these two medals at a local estate sale. I’ve done a little bit of research and I think the ribbon might be on the wrong medal? All the pictures I’ve seen the ribbons with the black center belong on the war merit badge not the iron Cross. I dont see any markings on the rings. Do these look real to y’all? 1 1 Quote
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