Brady96 Posted April 9, 2024 Posted April 9, 2024 Hello, does anyone have an opinion on the authenticity of this Iron Cross? It's a 1st class Rudolf Souval. 3 Quote
Xcvu Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 On 09/04/2024 at 21:59, Brady96 said: Hello, does anyone have an opinion on the authenticity of this Iron Cross? It's a 1st class Rudolf Souval. The swastika's edges look dull which is not a good sign. 3 Quote
John R. Posted April 21, 2024 Posted April 21, 2024 All: I just finished reading all the posts, what a great exchange between everyone. A big 'THANK YOU' to Kenny Andrew, Fritz, Gildwiller1918, Eddieq, Urkund1939, Xcvu, and Phantom for sharing their knowledge with others. The ones asking the questions and the ones providing the answers make the Forum great. Best regards, John R. 6 1 Quote
Stan3333Stan Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 Hi! I've been very interested in buying an Iron Cross 2nd class. I've seen several posts here about the price being around £60 for such pieces. Could I ask for any recommendations of where I could buy such a medal? UK/ europe based. 3 Quote
Kenny Andrew Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 Hi Stan, welcome to the forum. If you click on the Treasure Bunker banner at the top of the forum we usually have Iron Crosses in stock, however they have gone up in price, certainly for WW2 you won't get one for £60 anymore. You will still get Imperial for around that price but for second world war 2nd class these now start around £90 upwards depending on condition and maker marks. 2 Quote
Stan3333Stan Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 @Kenny Andrew I do not see any on offer. Is that the case? Are they usually on offer, is there any alternative places? Pardon my ignorance, but I'm just wondering about the guarantee of authenticity? It is not a challenge, I am only wondering. 3 Quote
Kenny Andrew Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 Hi Stan, we are sold out of Iron Crosses at the moment but keep an eye on the website you never know what might turn up. All our items have a lifetime guarantee of authenticity. There are lots of dealers on line who sell Iron crosses just make sure they have a lifetime guarantee of authenticity then if there are any problems you can get your money back. 2 Quote
Stan3333Stan Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 I'll keep my eyes peeled. In the meantime I see you have some really nice wound badges, so I'll take a look at those 3 Quote
Stan3333Stan Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 Found this cross and just wanted to double check the authenticity. From what I have researched it is a Steinhauer & Luck Ludenshied. Found a lovely video on how to identify one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOFupS3pvsQ&ab_channel=SecretsoftheIronCross 3 Quote
Darthcheese Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 Hi, I've got a Cross with Swords and Oak leaves, which I'm assuming is a replica, given that there weren't that many of them. But wanted to see people's thoughts. I know it was a gift to a (now dead) relative about 25 odd year ago and cost around £100. I've read that real ones are (in the main) magnetic, which my one is. I've also seen that the edges of the swastika on the real on is sharp while the fake one's are rounded. It looks like mine are sharp. My one is also quite thin, with the fake one's a bit thicker. If people could let me know what they think it would be very helpful. As it's not something I really want to keep, and if it's real it's worth quite a bit but if it's not then it's worth a lot less. I can see on the back of the medal (the 1817 side) there are is an engraving but I can't quite made it out. 3 Quote
leon21 Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 Welcome to the forum, its a poor quality copy of an L/12 C.E. Junker of Berlin medal. 4 Quote
Fritz Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 May be a real silver copy of an iconic decoration an complete with a matching case. Should be worth something as a collector's copy, if silver, in the region of 150 pounds or more. Check the internet for similar examples and prices. 4 Quote
leon21 Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 The Swords and Oakleaves are stamped 325 or 025 can't make out the first number properly. 3 Quote
Fritz Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 825 silver content would be more likely. The stamp is not always a guarantee that a copy is real silver. 4 Quote
Eddieq Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 Hi All Every original Juncker (L/12) Knights Cross that I’ve come across have all been marked with the silver content ‘800’ on the frame as well as L/12. For me, the swords and oak leaves don’t have the quality you would expect also. I don’t have any originals lying around to compare it too though , but I would say a copy. 4 Quote
Fritz Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 No, not quite the quality, but ideal for reenactment or theater or film, or to decorate a uniform on display. A real Knights Cross would cost over 20.000,- 4 Quote
Darthcheese Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 Thanks for the answers guys. Sorry another question, what's the best way to sell it? I've contacted 2 online sellers, 1 said they weren't interested and the other didn't reply. Ebay took my sales post down (I blocked out the swastika but clearly wasn't enough) even though there are other sales posts with swastikas on. I see people selling Knights Cross boxes for £70 a go. Is this code? Buy this expensive empty box and get a knights cross for free. 3 Quote
Kenny Andrew Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 Hi Darth, welcome to the forum. It is indeed a copy. I sponsor this forum but also have a shop, if you would like to message me or email me at info@treasurebunker.com I might be interested depending on how much you would like for it. 4 Quote
GrandpaJake Posted September 25, 2024 Posted September 25, 2024 hello I was wondering if this was real or fake. its part of a lot of medals on marketplace. not sure if there is a maker stamp or not, i asked the seller. Thank you. <a href="https://ibb.co/W3RbPMV"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/kyPR9wm/cross.jpg" alt="cross" border="0"></a> <a href="https://ibb.co/3c6MC1S"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/YhnyL2f/cross-2.jpg" alt="cross-2" border="0"></a> 2 Quote
Kenny Andrew Posted September 25, 2024 Posted September 25, 2024 Hi there could you post the pictures again please as just allot of random text 1 Quote
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