Herr_Petomer Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 Hi there guys, purchased my very first German Visor on Sunday night and it arrived yesterday morning. Just got round to taking photos of it. Private purchase Infantry NCO visor. The sweatband inside has been resown but I am not worrying too much about that. Insignia is original to the cap which is always good and a very nice high peak which is my favourite feature. Super makers mark inside along with the owners name. Hope you all like it, Pete 4 Quote
Kenny Andrew Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 Nice original cap Pete, a lot of people think Extra Klasse is the maker but the maker is actually Marke Standard and the class of the cap is Extra Klasse for superior quality. Janke makes fakes of these but you can see by the celluloid diamond that yours is original. 3 Quote
Herr_Petomer Posted August 26, 2010 Author Posted August 26, 2010 Thanks Kenny, the cap originally came from the Todt battery museum in France. 4 Quote
broom of doom Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 wow thats really cool ive brought a soviet officers cap a few weeks ago peak caps look mint! 4 Quote
Kenny Andrew Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Here's another Wehrmacht visor, we got a while ago, it's a Luftwaffe Flight N.C.O.s peaked cap,with matching alloy insignia.Maker marked Carl Halfar, Uniform-Mutzenfabrik and dated 1938 to celluloid diamond.Unit marked Fl. Gr. GöPP (Fliegergruppe Göppingen) to underside of sweatband. 5 Quote
Fritz Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 Shown is a very clean example of an infantry mans cap for walking out dress. The inner leather sweatband is stamped Mützenmachergenossenschaft in Bayern with date 1939. Becoming harder to get in a reasonable condition. As depicted on the seller's homepage And in the new environment The shape and material, ribbed cloth, remind me of the later NVA caps, however, the quality of this is much superior to the NVA, the lining is also different to NVA, which were all identical and of plastic materials (no leather was used). Liner with a size stamp and dated 1939 under the leather sweatband. Early aluminium insignia, oakleaves additionally with a fine matt silver finish, cockade is also early quality, not aluminium. The disadvantage with ribbed cloth is, when hit by moth, it tends to disintegrate. 4 Quote
Fritz Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Luftwaffe peaked cap for n.c.o or other ranks for walking out dress. The cap is of later production, and shows hardly any signs of wear. The top is made of fine melton or doeskin cloth, all other aspects are typical, apart from the chinstrap, which is made of artificial material, being of later war production. The inside is lined in champagne coloured artificial silk, the sweatband is also not leather, being of pressed paper with a leather like surface. The original celluloid Salmi is still in place, no makers details. The insignia is also the late war type, the second pattern eagle being clearly of zinc as well as the winged cockade, which has an aluminium-like finish. The entire cap is mint, apart from quite a bit of tracking to the top, and one tiny hole to crown piping. Judging by the swept back shape of the cap, the wearer was very probably aircrew of some sort. The branch of service piping is also golden yellow for flight personnel, etc. 4 Quote
Fritz Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 Early or pre-war walking out dress cap for Artillery other ranks and ncos. Fine fieldfgrey doeskin top. Fine dark green band and all bright red piping. The patent leather chinstrap has some aging to lacquer. Found with eagle missing, this has been replaced. Fine silvered cockade and oakleaf in prewar quality. Above the cockade there are signs that a further badge has been attached, which looks to have been a small Edelweiss for the Gebirgs-Artillerie. Eagle is of zinc. Inside, a good brown leather sweatband and champagne coloured silky lining. The celluloide patch has the makers name of Burgmeier in Ulm. So this could well be for a Gebirgsartillerie unit. Some slight mothing and tracking on doeskin in places, otherwise fresh condition. 4 Quote
Fritz Posted March 14, 2016 Posted March 14, 2016 A nice Luftwaffe signals Ln Luftwaffen Nachrichten - other ranks or ncos peaked dress cap. The cap is made by G.A.Hoffmann, Berlin SW29, Gneisnaustrasse 33 (Berlin-Tempelhof), with rust brown liner and celluloid patch, date stamp 1939. The liner band is of artificial leather (pressed paper), and has suffered some damage over the years. Black resin peak with oilcloth trim, underside green lined. The top of the cap is fine Lufwaffe bluegrey whipcord, and is of the rounder Teller variety. Black mohair band, black patent leather strap with slight congealing in places, still glossy and supple. The insignia is of aluminium in very fine quality. Hoffmann in Berlin was one of the top quality cap makers at the time. Berlin Tempelhof was one of the largest airfields in Berlin, and was closed just a few years ago for redevelopment and housing. The airfield was invaluable during the Berlin Airlift in the early postwar years, when Stalin blockaded the corridors to West Berlin from the West. 4 Quote
Fritz Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Here is a photo of a super cavalry officer cap, which I got a few years back. It has a maker`s stamp under the liner band - Otto Schlientz in Straubing (Bavaria,), 1938. I would assume it was orginally with Kavallerie-Regt.17, 5th or 6th Eskadron, which stood in Straubing. It looks to have been lightly worn over a longer period of time, but still in good condition, only some slight moth damage. The cap has golden yellow Waffenfarbe piping, for cavalry and reconnaisance (Aufklärer), incl. later some of the armoured units. 3 Quote
Kenny Andrew Posted October 2, 2017 Posted October 2, 2017 lovely visor caps Paul here's another we got last week, not the best of condition but has loads of character. Army infantry officers peaked cap with silver bullion wire eagle and cockade. Nice quality cap made from doeskin material, small tear to the top and a little staining to the edge. Maker marked Karl Hartel, Kurschnermeister, Weiden-Opf. Some wear and tear to the inside and a bend to the visor on the right hand side, otherwise a nice honest cap which has seen some service. 4 Quote
Gildwiller1918 Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 Here is my WW2 German Enlisted Infantry peaked cap, the sweat band has some wear issues, but looks nice on the outside for display purposes anyway. 4 Quote
Fritz Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 Care should be taken in respect of the sweat band and the peak, the cap should not be held by the peak! This will strain the stitches, which in time will break, which is often the case with many caps in the past years, they will loosen and come adrift completely if not handled with care. Also, pulling down the sweatband to see if any stamps is also not advisable, as they can eventually tear or come adrift from the cap, as also the stitching will give way. The problem is that many sweatbands are of artificial leather on a pressed paper basis, and these are not very durable. It would be difficult to stitch a peak back on, considering the stitching must not show on the outside! Glueing the peak back on is absolutely out! 4 Quote
Kenny Andrew Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Nice quality private purchased Luftwaffe Signals NCO's visor cap features a black center band with brown wool waffenfarbe piping to the crown. The front center of the cap has a second pattern silver washed alloy Luftwaffe eagle and silver washed alloy wreath with painted national tri-color cockade. Black patent leather chinstrap with two black painted metal retaining clips and two black painted metal buckles. The chinstrap is secured to the cap by two black painted metal buttons. The interior of the cap is fully lined in brown rayon. Celluloid center diamond remains with maker beneath of 'CARL HALFAR, UNIFORM-MUTZENFABRIK, BERLIN N.20 Prinzenallee 74'. The interior of the cap has a tan leather sweatband. Excellent unit marking 'IL/Ln.R.2' and date stamp 'APR 1938' 4 Quote
Fritz Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Similar to my example, just a different type of cloth. Exactly as it should be. The insignia here is early quality aluminium, was later of Zink, which becomes a greyish colour. The chinstrap on black lacquered side buttons, also exactly as should be., only officers had the silver coloured buttons with the resp. silver cords. The sweat band on Luftwaffe caps is seldom leather, usually a paper-mâché type leather and often with tears. I.L/Ln.R.2 would stand for 1. Komp. / Luftnachrichten-Regt.2 3 Quote
Pezza Posted November 3, 2024 Posted November 3, 2024 Bit of a late one to this thread but I’ve always liked the visor caps and is top of my ‘want’ list. Tried doing some research to be able to whittle out the fakes but I can never find anything on the visor material. What is the material of the visor itself? Or does this vary depending on which force they are in? 3 Quote
Fritz Posted November 3, 2024 Posted November 3, 2024 Arfificial leather, resin, reddish-brown in colour, lacquered on the inside in cream colour or light grey, outside, black. For differences, see the pictures in the resp. topics in the forum 4 Quote
Pezza Posted November 3, 2024 Posted November 3, 2024 Resp. Topics? What does this mean? sorry 3 Quote
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