kenneth lamb Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I think more research is needed.! Also the fact , that brodie only had the patent for the liner. Not the entire helmet. There has to be more documents somewhere, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth lamb Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 About Albert Bates. https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/the-halifax-man-who-invented-tommy-s-tin-hat-1-1920794 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth lamb Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Leadbeater & scott, used a plain SL stamp inside a square too, on cuttlery.! As well as intertwined SL in a triangle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth lamb Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Death of steel helmet designer 1929 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth lamb Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Proof my helmet is magnetic.! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kenneth lamb Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 From halifax courier.! Dec 5 1914 It looks as though they were getting more supplies from home communities, rather than from the , war office.! Was Alfred Bates making helmets before, they where even called for.! Did he create the demand.? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Interesting story, I agree more research is needed on the LS mark for sure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth lamb Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Definately needs research. If Alfred Bates was contacted by the war office, or he contacted the war office, then there should be some proof somewhere.! Or maybe a sales invoice from LS (leadbeater & scott), for steel .? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 Not sure if they would keep an invoice for 103 years Kenneth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth lamb Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 ledger books are usually kept though.! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Might be an idea to contact them, if they are still in business 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CluelessTommy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I came across this set of markings today but can’t match them to any of the makers in the list. They appear on what looks like a MK II shell Maybe it’s just me being a muppet but as I said I can’t seem to place them. Any help appreciated, Jack 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Jack, is it EB or FB can't make it out properly.? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CluelessTommy Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Sorry it’s FB, should of made that clearer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Not seen that mark before Jack, a lot of these helmet manufactures used more than one stamp mark, the nearest I can think of, is it might be a Fisher & Ludlow of Birmingham stamp mark. But it's only a guess, it could be a lesser known Private maker you've found. Here's a lesser known stamp mark for Clydesdale Stamping Co. who used a letter S within a letter C stamp mark. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 Here's a couple more unknown maker marks from private manufacturers MXAC3 found on a chief wardens helmet, and ET 1940 found on a Home Guard helmet, or the mark could be M/AC3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Here's two interesting Brodie Helmets I spotted up for sale online both made by Briggs Motor Bodies of Birmingham. First one has the letters U.X.B. painted on the front of the helmet made in 1941 with a BMB liner of the same date a nice looking helmet. Second is a Alvis car factory fire guard helmet made in 1940 with a Vero liner dated 1940, during WW2 they produced Aircraft Engines as a sub contractor of Rolls-Royce Ltd and other Aircraft Equipment. They also produced the AC1, AC2, and AC3D Armoured Car, the AC2 was subsequently used as a basis for the 39M Csaba Armoured Car they produced a total of 61 for the Royal Hungarian Army and 16 for the Royal Air Force. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GijsLake Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Hello! Leon21 seems to be an expert on these helmets and I really appreciate his work and research on this topic. I have just bought a Brodie helmet with the markings they are very faint so instead i write them down for you (the same way they appear on the helmet): BMB 1942 R48 As i found in your guide that BMB is the company that produced this helmet and 1942 is the production date. I cannot find anywhere though what R48 stands for. Also the chinstrap is on this helmet is not the one used on most brodie helmets as shown in the pictures. The chinstrap also has a bit of what I suppose is blood on it. It was also missing it's liner. It has no other markings on it. I could be a Dutch post-war Brodie helmet as I live and bought it in the Netherlands. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 Welcome to the forum Gijs, yes the helmet shell is British made by Briggs Motor Bodies of Dagenham the R48 is the batch number of steel used to make the shell. The chin strap is the later MKIII chin strap and started to be used around this time. Below is an example of a Dutch post war stamp mark, they did not have any makers marks on the inside of the helmet shells. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Ok, I am starting to post images of my British Helmets, so enjoy, it make take several days to get them all done. Up first is an unrimmed helmet with the liner intact. The heat stamp has a "V" over a possible "S" with lot number 103. I did also get a picture of the liner manufacturer as well. Either W. & E. Viener Ltd or Vickers Ltd of Sheffield. both used the letter V mark. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Next up is another unrimmed helmet, Marked D/A 81. ( Manufacturer) J. Dixon & Sons. ( Steel Supplier) Edgar Allen & Co. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Here is another, marked "H/S" 410, has the liner and chinstrap, but has seen better days, has a really nice liner stamp as well. ( Manufacturer & Steel Supplier ) Hadfield Ltd of Sheffield. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Great helmets Gildwiller1918 look forward to seeing more 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Next up is a rimmed helmet marked "HS" 499. ( Manufacturer & Steel Supplier ) Hadfield Ltd of Sheffield. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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