2 Black Bands Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 The trouble is I'm never actually sure if there'll ever be a complete list of liner makers...new ones seem to keep coming out of the woodwork tho there MUST be contract details somewhere. I guess we'll have to wait for Marcus' book for that. ..but if it's lists you want, a list of Zuck / CPH liner makers would be very interesting.....I gave up on that when it started to look like everyone and his brother made 'em! ....sorry, I know this isn't a Zuck thread. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I have just set up a thread for Zuckerman helmets 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 Here's a helmet made by Miris Steel Co Ltd of London stamped MLS 36 who was both Manufacturer and Steel Supplier and Steel Batch 36. Photo's from other sources. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 Here's another British made helmet stamped HS.407 by Hadfields Ltd of Sheffield both Manufacturer and Steel Supplier and Steel Batch 407, has the US Third Division emblem to front of helmet. Photo's from other sources. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dd1975 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Hi Everyone, I stumbled on this thread as I was looking for the makers marks of the helmet I've owned for years. I needed the information so I could send it to school with my daughter for their WW2 topic. Thanks to you guys I now know who made it Helmet: Harrison Bros & Howson Liner: Barrow Hepburn & Gale Ltd (not in great condition sadly) Both stamped 1939 (although helmet marking is difficult to read) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Andrew Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Your welcome dd75 thanks for adding your helmet to the data base. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dd1975 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Thanks Kenny my pleasure, I've had it since I was a kid in the 80's (I seem to remember making my dad pay £6 for it!!!) so its really good to find out some of its history. The liner was original in much better condition, but unfortunately it's been tucked away in cupboards a lot for a long time so its no longer as good as it was. I'm assuming that the G 11 above the makers mark is the batch number. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 Welcome to the forum DD1975, yes the G11 is the Heat/batch number, nice looking helmet. Nice to see the Barrow Hepburn & Gale Ltd liner don't see them very often, thanks for posting much appreciated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dd1975 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Thanks, I've tried to look after it all the digs you can see on the top have been there since I got it. I need to spend some time on the liner see if I can restore it a bit. The lace rotted and snapped and I haven't managed to get it out and replace it yet I didn't want to damage it in the process. The paint has worn off the rim but otherwise it's not too bad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Black Bands Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 ..for what it's worth I'd keep it exactly as it is..... you COULD do loads to it...along with the ultimate desecration of a re-paint......but it's "been there" and looks like it's "been there"......just sayin'...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 Yes I would have to agree, it's 80 years old and bound to have a few problems, I keep mine in a display cabinet were they are kept dry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I agree with Leon, I would leave it be, original complete helmets are getting harder to find. I have refurbished some of the US M1917 helmets, but only those that have no paint left on them and are missing all the internal parts, basically the empty shell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dd1975 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 To be fair that's partly why I left it alone and I wouldn't even consider painting it. I will see if it's possible to replace the lace in the liner, but will leave it alone if it looks like being a problem. Thanks for the advice guys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 No problem, there are reproduction liners and parts available as well as originals. Just got to hunt them down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Why not just buy a reproduction helmet, then everything is complete? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Yes, that certainly is an option. You can buy a newly made one or a refurbished one. Dealers choice. Up to the end user. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 Here's another WW2 Helmet by Harrison Bros & Howson, has the Black Cat emblem of 56th Infantry ( London Division ) shell marked HBH II 1943 and heat No 433. Also two other 1939 stamp marks note the heat code on these are 2 letters. Photo's from other sources. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Here's another WW2 helmet used by the Ambulance service made by Joseph Sankey & Son ltd of Bilston stamped JSS I 1939 and heat code HD. Photo's from other sources. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Here's a WW1 rimless helmet R/A 123 made around 1916 by John Round & Sons Ltd of Sheffield and Steel Supplier Edgar Allen & Co Ltd of Sheffield And Heat/Batch code 123, was later refurbished and a BMB 1940 Liner fitted. Photo's from other sources. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Here's another WW1 rimless helmet D/F 7 made by James Dixon & Sons of Sheffield and Steel Supplier Thomas Firth & Sons of Sheffield and Heat/Batch code 7, looks like it has been refurbished has a Portuguese Legion Emblem on front. Photo's from other sources. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 And here we have a WW1 helmet FKS93 by Thomas Firth & Sons Ltd of Sheffield Both Manufacturer and Steel Supplier and Heat/Batch code 93. Photo's from other sources. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Here we have a helmet stamped FS 93 made by Thomas Firth & Sons Ltd of Sheffield both Manufacturer and Steel Supplier and Heat/Batch code 93. Used by the US Army has 101st Infantry Regiment Emblem part of 26th Yankee Division. Photo's from other sources. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon21 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Here we have another helmet stamped FS 180 made by Thomas Firth & Sons of Sheffield both Manufacturer and Supplier and Heat/Batch code 180. Used by the US Army has the 78th Infantry Division Emblem on side of helmet. Photo's from other sources. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrisc8 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Hello, I have just bought this ww1 British/ Portuguese helmet as listed below and on your website . Should i put it back to a ww1 British helmet as i have a original 08 webbing large pack and or take the shine off it with a fine wire wool, is it the original british colour ? Keith Here's another WW1 rimless helmet D/F 7 made by James Dixon & Sons of Sheffield and Steel Supplier Thomas Firth & Sons of Sheffield and Heat/Batch code 7, looks like it has been refurbished has a Portuguese Legion Emblem on front. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildwiller1918 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Keith, in my opinion, you can do whatever you like as the helmet is yours. However altering it will diminish the value and historical aspect. As long as you are ok with that, do what you wish. If you goal is to make a authentic looking WW1 British Helmet, you have a really nice shell to start from. The liner would have to be replaced and a chinstrap installed as well. Do you plan on using original items or reproductions? You spoke of removing the decal and shine, have you considered just covering the helmet with the jute/burlap cover? These can still be found and decent prices, just an idea. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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