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British & Commonwealth WW1 & WW2 Brodie Helmet Maker Stamps


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Here's another British made helmet stamped HV 100 = Hutton & Sons Ltd of Sheffield ( Manufacturer ) Vickers Ltd of Sheffield ( Steel Supplier )

and Heat/Batch code looks like 100.

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Very Nice, the AEF could possibly stand for the American Expeditionary Force as most helmets used by the US forces were British made.

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Very nice, has the 27th Infantry Division emblem. That is probably why it was listed as a US Helmet. Most if not all helmets that have division insignia on them are post war.

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Yes I  find this a lot on American websites if a helmet has a US Division emblem on the helmet.

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I think that a lot of people don't know the difference between the helmets. I often see this on sites selling militaria, even WW2 US defense helmets listed as WW1 helmets. A lot of folks dont realize that there are several features that differentiate the various helmets. But that is why we must educate by using sites like this one, for those who want to know more. You are doing great with this thread by the way.

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Yes I agree, I noticed one seller had used part of the Makers of WW2 liners list on page one to help sell his helmet, so looks like some

people are taking note of what we are saying.

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Here's another British made helmet stamped FS 153 = Thomas Firth & Sons of Sheffield both ( Manufacturer and Steel Supplier )

Heat/Batch 153 is in good condition and has the rubber ring which was introduced in 1917.

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Here's a WW1 British made helmet stamped HS 409 = Hadfields Ltd of Sheffield both ( Manufacturer and Steel Supplier )

with Heat/Batch code 409 in good condition with Red Brodie stamp mark on liner.

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Here we have a WW2 British made helmet stamped EC & Co Ltd = E Camelinat & Co Ltd of Birmingham and Heat/Batch code

T 784 and dated 1/1939 and liner by Helmets Ltd also dated 1/1939. Has the letter R for Rescue on front.

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Here's another helmet by E Camelinat & Co Ltd of Birmingham with Heat/Batch code 417 and dated 1/1943.

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Very nice marked 1939 dated helmet you listed above. 

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Here we have a WW2 British made helmet stamped RO.CO = Rubery Owen & Co Ltd of Leeds with Heat/Batch code DS 1/1939.

Has the NFS and Regional number 5 sticker for Bradford on front of helmet, also has owners Id number on inside rim.

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I saw one of these recently, same number as well. Interesting helmets. 

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Here we have an early made British Police helmet stamped HBH = Harrison Bros & Howson of Sheffield with Heat/Batch code

ZB II/1938, the police letters to front of helmet have been removed as this helmet has been used as a prop for theatre productions.

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Here we have another British made Police helmet has no makers mark only Heat/Batch code G22 and dated 1939, I have seen a lot

of these G marked helmets over the years, has no liner or chin strap.

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Spotted 4 of these Civil Defence helmets being sold on an American website, the seller listed them as being used by the US during WW2 and after.

This helmet is  post war Dutch made and stamped VB 56-1sln  on the inside rim, VB = Verblifa , 56 the year, and batch code 1sln.

They were only made from 1955 to the end of 1956 and have become collectors items in their own rite, but many are being passed off as British to

the unwary collector.

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I have also seen a lot of the Dutch helmets often confused with the British and American Examples as well.

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Keep up the good work Leon, education is an important tool for the collector.

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Here's another helmet that could be passed of as British, this is the 1949 Belgium model copied from the British MII Brodie, made for

the Belgium Army from 1949 - 1952, it has no marking on the helmet shell but the liner is stamped with all the information you need.

Stamped ABL = Armee Belge/Belgissche Leger ( Belgium Army issue ).

                   1949 = The Model.

                   XB = The Manufacturer Xavier Buisset Vilvoorde.

                   1950 = The year of production.

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Here's a WW2 British helmet stamped EB = Eveson Brothers of Worcester and dated 1/1943, Liner stamped CCL II 1943 = Christy

& Co Ltd of London.

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Here's another British made helmet stamped HBH = Harrison Bros & Howson of Sheffield with Heat/Batch code ZT and dated

II/1938, Liner stamped Helmets Ltd of Wheathampstead and dated I/1937. Has the NFS logo and Western Region No 1 on front

also the red band of a Leading Fireman.

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Leon and Gildwiller a member has asked a new Brodie question in this thread 

  

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Here's another WW1 Helmet stamped HV 610 = Hutton & Sons of Sheffield ( Manufacturer ) Vickers Ltd of Sheffield ( Steel Supplier )

with Heat/Batch code 610. This is one of the British made helmets used by the US during WW1, has the soldiers name James Greer

and id number 290231 on inside rim is in good condition for its age.

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Here's another WW1 helmet stamped HS 52 = Hadfield Ltd of Sheffield both ( Manufacturer and Steel Supplier )

with Heat/Batch code 52, missing its strap but in good condition.

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Here's another WW1 helmet stamped FS 15 = Thomas Firth & Sons of Sheffield both ( Manufacturer and Steel Supplier )

with Heat/Batch code 15, no liner or strap and not the best of paint jobs.

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