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41/47 Royal Tank Regiment (Oldham)


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Converted from my Grandfathers old 1/10 Battalion Manchester Regiment, a Territorial Army Infantry Battalion, converted to

a tank unit,part of 24th Armoured Brigade in 1938 it was part of the Royal Tank Regiment, itself part of the Royal Armoured

Corps. Known as the 41st (Oldham) Royal Tank Regiment based at the Drill Hall Rifle Street. A 2nd Regiment the 47th was

formed in April of that year,as you can imagine the Drill Hall was not large enough to accommodate two regiments, to over

come this they were billeted in two cotton mills,the 47th in the Further Hey Mill at Lees and the 41st at Earl Mill on Dowry St

this mill I worked at for a good many years. A section of land belonging to Hegginbottoms Farm was also commandeered

for tank training.

Walter Mills tells a good tale of the early days of training when the regiment only had a Mk 6 light tank. The tank much to

the delight of the local children was left to fend for itself at lunch time whilst the crew retired to the local pub for a spot of

refreshment,and when they came out you could here them shout "Oy gerof that bloody tank" on their return

Both Regiments played a big part in the victory at the 2nd battle of El.Alamein.

 

Here are some photo's.

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1, Photo of Earl Mill and training fields behind, would have looked the same in 1938.

 

2, A Mk 6 light tank.

 

3, A Valentine Tank of the 24th Armoured Tank Brigade

 

4,5,6, The regiment training in their new Comet tanks c1947-1949.

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      Here's two more photo's from the same period.

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Here's some photo's of the Royal visit to the town in 1954, the 41st Royal Tank Regiment was the guard of honour.

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Hi,

 

My old man - Desmond Poynton was C/O of the 40/41st for some years. Great to see these photos. I recall attending a Whitsun Wakes parade in Oldham when the regiment, with tanks, paraded thru' the town centre. We were on the Town Hall steps with other local dignitaries. 

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Welcome to the forum Jeremy, nice to hear from a fellow Oldhamer have you any photo's of your old man in uniform you could post.

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I'm not sure I have any good ones of his TA days, but I'll have a poke around! As kids, dad used to take us to the barracks at time at weekends; sometimes we went out in the Centurions on the range as "supplementary" crew! Wonderful for a young lad. I can also recall going to a Whitsun Wakes parade in Oldham which feature the regiment and tanks - we were stashed up with the Mayor and co. on the steps of the Town Hall. I know the old man was devoted to the TA and very proud of being C/O. In charge when the Regimental Colours were presented to HRH Queen Elizabeth - here's a picture I do have to hand (not in great shape) - he's on the left. 

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And this last one is I think taken on a training camp on Salisbury Plain. Not sure of the date ... early 60s, I'd guess. You'll need a magnifying glass! The old man is three to the right from the feller with the stick on **his** right. I think to **His** right is David Hague, who was his adjutant at the time, and still with us - I'm hoping to see him and his wife in a month or two. 

 

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And in fact I'm not an Oldham boy - we were brought up in Bramhall and Woodford, tho' antecedents on both sides, with Irish and Cornish added in, have roots in Manchester back to Victorian times; the old man and my maternal Grandpa were both in the rag trade. Indeed, David Hague, mentioned above, had a cotton mill in Oldham (sold in the 60s). 

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Hello Guys.

I am desperately trying to find anything i can about my Grandfather John McGrath, he served as a driver with the Tank Regiment  in Oldham Lancashire. he was with the 10th Manchesters when WW2 broke out,  as was mobilised. the 10th Manchesters were then converted to an Armoured Regiment.  He use to tell me about his war years and when he was in North Africa, after the war he stayed with the Tank Regiment and drove the Centurion Tanks that they had there in the Drill Hall at Rifle street and in the Tank Sheds on Oldham Edge. I believe that he also served on Chuchill Tanks during WW2, also Shermans. IF anybody knew him or could find out anything mentioning his name or even better a photograph, I would even be willing to pay. I served with 1RTR I had to follow my grandfathers footsteps. I am now 65 yrs old and I desperately want this info before I go to the Green Fields Beyond. Thank You Sincerely.

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This might be a question for Leon.

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Hello Tankie 1RTR didn't we speak about your grandfather over the phone awhile ago, or was that someone else.

Have you tried to find his service records if not there are several sites you could try like Fold 3 or Forces-War-Records/Records

most of the WW2 records seem to be held on these sites.

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I have just come across this site. I was a kid at Waterloo Junior School from 1950 to 1956 and it was a great thrill to see the tanks come down from Oldham and turn round at the war memorial in Waterloo during their training.

Regards

Derrick Latchford

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